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    Quote Originally Posted by 12ozPBR View Post
    I went with the Harbor Freight hydraulic lift table. . .
    I'm beginning to wish we had Harbor Freight in UK. Sounds like a mechanical enthusiasts' paradise. Sure, we have hardware, etc, but nothing with the breadth of stock that members talk out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongDistanceRider View Post
    I need more light, currently using four 4' fluorescents with LED tubes.
    When I looked the cost of LED tubes that fit the fluorescent fixtures was twice what self contained LED 4' were and then if the ballasts go bad you have to deal with that. I'm retiring my old fixtures, the new ones are very light, bright and literally plug and play. See below amazon link and figure what 6 T12 (4') LED equivalents cost. The 6 pack costs about $45 and they draw less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12ozPBR View Post
    I went with the Harbor Freight hydraulic lift table. It has worked well and is plenty sturdy for a Honda twin. Definitely worth the money when I bought it several years ago. As Jim mentioned the price has gone up but it still is the most affordable one to buy new.
    One thing is for sure, it will keep your legs in shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondaholic View Post
    I'm beginning to wish we had Harbor Freight in UK. Sounds like a mechanical enthusiasts' paradise. Sure, we have hardware, etc, but nothing with the breadth of stock that members talk out.
    Their stuff is 'okay', adequate most of the time but a fair amount of it is for the quite casual user. I bought some polishing (cloth) wheels for my grinder there and they came apart in mere minutes, pieces flying off while I was in my first 3 minutes of polishing. Took that junk back, no issues (they know the level of stuff they sell). I use their Scotchbrite-style discs for the hand-held air grinder (and when my old friend Mike's CP air grinder died I bought the HF equivalent) and both work well, though you can tell the air grinder isn't top flight but it does what I need it to do for half the money or less. As mentioned earlier, I have their parts washing tank and it's going on 5 years old with petroleum-based solvent in it (which they said would damage the pump) and it's been great. Just like any other seller, you have to pick and choose from their stuff to get decent for less money. Been considering their mid-priced torque wrench as I've borrowed my buddy's Snap-On piece a few times in the last 5 years or so, just not convinced it would be as accurate as I'd like.

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    I would have liked to have a lift but just didnt have room for it. I have an overhead hoist and would lift the bike then go to the wood shop and build a stand to support the bike where I needed it. When done I would take the stand apart for storage. I have a work bench on one side of the shop and built a portable work bench to use where I needed it. My shop is 33 feet deep but only 11 feet wide. With work benches and shelves on the sides you have to get creative with the center space. My powder coating ovens, sand blaster and welders take up the back wall.
    When and or if I finish Tonys CA 95 I am going start selling my equipment. None of the family is interested in the tools. Probably wont get a few cents on the dollar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old timer View Post
    . . . When and or if I finish Tonys CA 95 I am going start selling my equipment. None of the family is interested in the tools. . .
    Shame.

    But another reason for me to apply for a Green Card!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientdad View Post
    Their stuff is 'okay', adequate most of the time but a fair amount of it is for the quite casual user. I bought some polishing (cloth) wheels for my grinder there and they came apart in mere minutes, pieces flying off while I was in my first 3 minutes of polishing. Took that junk back, no issues (they know the level of stuff they sell). I use their Scotchbrite-style discs for the hand-held air grinder (and when my old friend Mike's CP air grinder died I bought the HF equivalent) and both work well, though you can tell the air grinder isn't top flight but it does what I need it to do for half the money or less. As mentioned earlier, I have their parts washing tank and it's going on 5 years old with petroleum-based solvent in it (which they said would damage the pump) and it's been great. Just like any other seller, you have to pick and choose from their stuff to get decent for less money. Been considering their mid-priced torque wrench as I've borrowed my buddy's Snap-On piece a few times in the last 5 years or so, just not convinced it would be as accurate as I'd like.
    This is a fair review. I go there for "staple" type stuff. Or stuff that is seldom used but will work.

    For stuff I expect to use often, and I want it to work, I try to find the better stuff.

    I did end up springing for a Snap-on torque wrench. I had tried a wrench from Amazon (that got great reviews) and when I tried it at 40 foot lbs, it never even signaled me. Multiple tries. Returned it. I mean I should trust that or not even use one, right?

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    I use an old craftsman beam and scale type, not even a clicker. I did buy the HF deluxe drill bit set (numbered, letter, decimal) off the sale rack that was a jumble for $20. The $90 MIG and auto dark helmet have gotten a lot of use. Still use the $8 meters (I check one against the others). The X/Y drill press vice gets used for other noisy machinery projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballbearian View Post
    I use an old craftsman beam and scale type, not even a clicker. I did buy the HF deluxe drill bit set (numbered, letter, decimal) off the sale rack that was a jumble for $20. The $90 MIG and auto dark helmet have gotten a lot of use. Still use the $8 meters (I check one against the others). The X/Y drill press vice gets used for other noisy machinery projects.
    I have so many tools from between what I had and what my father left me that in general, I'm okay with most everyday needs but I lack some specialty stuff, and I wish I still had my Craftsman beam style torque wrench. I hate losing (or missing) stuff that got away somehow without knowing where it went. Used it all through high school and well beyond, then along the way over a couple decades of non-use it just disappeared. I'd imagine they get out of calibration after years of use too, but when you read accounts like teebo's above about a new clicker type from Amazon that doesn't work right you tend to lose some confidence in the more modern stuff, especially the bargain versions. That's why I can't bring myself to buy a mid-priced torque wrench from HF.

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    Craftsman beam style like this?

    IMG_20220213_100355.jpg

    I'm keeping this since I need it for my 140 foot lbs lug nuts on my truck. Not about to buy a new high end torque wrench for that. No idea how accurate this one is. Probably close enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teebo View Post
    Craftsman beam style like this?

    I'm keeping this since I need it for my 140 foot lbs lug nuts on my truck. Not about to buy a new high end torque wrench for that. No idea how accurate this one is. Probably close enough.
    Yup, like that only older probably. Was bought in the late '60s or really early '70s. I remember having to float in the middle of the pivoting handle travel to avoid influencing the reading. It's probably accurate enough for your lug nuts. My problem is having to spend an excessive amount of money on something that will only get used once a year on average, but unfortunately the cheaper alternatives are usually just that - cheap and not worth investing in. Doubt anyone even sells that style anymore too.

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    I use 3/8 drive Craftsman beam wrench for the smaller stuff, the rest of the time I use an ancient 1/2 drive New Britain clicker style. At work we have a 3/4 drive (150-500 ft/lbs) and inch drive (250-1500 ft/lbs) for the big bolts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teebo View Post
    Craftsman beam style like this?

    IMG_20220213_100355.jpg

    I'm keeping this since I need it for my 140 foot lbs lug nuts on my truck. Not about to buy a new high end torque wrench for that. No idea how accurate this one is. Probably close enough.
    Yep. You need proper technique even with a clicker. If the indicator gets bent, you can re-bend it to 'recalibrate'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teebo View Post
    This is a fair review. I go there for "staple" type stuff. Or stuff that is seldom used but will work.

    For stuff I expect to use often, and I want it to work, I try to find the better stuff.

    I did end up springing for a Snap-on torque wrench. I had tried a wrench from Amazon (that got great reviews) and when I tried it at 40 foot lbs, it never even signaled me. Multiple tries. Returned it. I mean I should trust that or not even use one, right?
    I recently picked up this used torque wrench on ebay. CDI is a brand owned by Snap On as I understand so hoping it is of decent quality. Payed $70 and it sells new for double that.
    I got interested in this particular model because it was the only one I could find that had a more useful range for my CB350 (50 in lb - 250 in lb or 4 ft lb - 21 ft lb). I want to rest assured I am not over torqueing those acorn head nuts and other engine fasteners. I still need to take it to work and test the accuracy though.

    Another handy tool is the wire brush on a grinder, in this case three of them sandwiched together.

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    Don't forget a good set of JIS type screwdrivers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WintrSol View Post
    Don't forget a good set of JIS type screwdrivers.
    Any particular recommendations on JIS sets? I do have some. They were fairly inexpensive on Amazon. But there were more expensive sets. More expensive doesn't always mean better (enough), and the ones I got seem to fit fine.

    Its easy to see why so many Honda screws get stripped without them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WintrSol View Post
    Don't forget a good set of JIS type screwdrivers.
    This is what I have and they work for me. Contains five inch hex shaft in Philips style and flat blade bits. Three sizes of each style for a total of six. Not sure why it says 10pcs on package

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    For those that were, or could be, professional mechanics... What brands of tools did you use? Were there general favorites?

    For example, it seems Snap-on has a huge following. I've seen Starrett or Brown & Sharpe for calipers. What were the same for say... Sockets, or wrenches? Does it matter?

    Just kind of curious.

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    I bought all my SAE tools from snap on and all my metric tools in MAC. No big reason I just decided to do it that way. My boxes are snap on. My wife bought me the vessel JIS set for Christmas.
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    All of my hand tools were Snap-On with a few Mac thrown in because they had what I needed at the time. A majority of those are long gone being lost or misappropriated by "friends" who borrowed them. My sons friends weren't any help there either once the tool boxes came home in the late 80's.
    While the professional grade tools are nice and actually needed for the full time mechanic because of the quality for the casual home mechanic they are too expensive unless there's specialized need.
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    I have a set of JIS drivers from Vessel also, and a couple sets made by Moody. I use them on my Japanese bikes and my RC model aircraft (most are made in Asia). Sizes 00 through 2 cover most screws for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientdad View Post
    I have a #3 that I haven't really used with a hammer. Truth is, I didn't know it had a 12 degree rotation. Duh.

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    Quite apt that some of this discussion centres on 'budget' tools.

    I've just snipped this. Middle tape is Chinese:

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    I'm sure there's a joke somewhere about that middle rule being used to measure body parts, but it's probably racist and non family friendly ...
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    Returning to the other type of tools, in the UK Halfords own brand 'Professional' range of spanners and sockets are well regarded, inexpensive, with a life time replacement guarantee against breakage, usual caveats about misuse apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ballbearian View Post
    I have a #3 that I haven't really used with a hammer. Truth is, I didn't know it had a 12 degree rotation. Duh.
    I didn't know they made them until Chris told me he used them, but then again I haven't needed anything in that area for a long time so more than a few new versions are around - and sadly, one that isn't - the Vessel t-handle I bought long ago and still have, for whatever reason they quit selling it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ausman1000 View Post
    This is what I have and they work for me. Contains five inch hex shaft in Philips style and flat blade bits. Three sizes of each style for a total of six. Not sure why it says 10pcs on package

    jis.jpg
    The cheapies don't last like Vessel. I've twisted and even sheared off the tips of #2 with the hammer impact. I need to get some of the long #2s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballbearian View Post
    I have a #3 that I haven't really used with a hammer. Truth is, I didn't know it had a 12 degree rotation. Duh.
    Some of them are not impacts. My set is not. I have the megladora series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheel View Post
    Some of them are not impacts. My set is not. I have the megladora series.
    The packaging was in Japanese, but did say impacta and has the steel end. I thought the arrow meant you could apply twisting grip while hitting. It actually has a spring and cam inside that gives a 12 degree twist when struck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballbearian View Post
    The packaging was in Japanese, but did say impacta and has the steel end. I thought the arrow meant you could apply twisting grip while hitting. It actually has a spring and cam inside that gives a 12 degree twist when struck.
    And appropriately called the "Impacta" series...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientdad View Post
    And appropriately called the "Impacta" series...
    It will get tested pretty soon. Engine work time about there.

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    Sometimes it's about the electrical stuff so a decent selection of soldering gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ausman1000 View Post
    Sometimes it's about the electrical stuff so a decent selection of soldering gear.
    Yep, and to have the right stuff for small work is essential. Do you have a solder sucker too? They're really helpful when working on small traces on a board

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientdad View Post
    Yep, and to have the right stuff for small work is essential. Do you have a solder sucker too? They're really helpful when working on small traces on a board
    As pictured I have a basic manually operated solder sucker but actually prefer the rosin impregnated solder wick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballbearian View Post
    When I looked the cost of LED tubes that fit the fluorescent fixtures was twice what self contained LED 4' were and then if the ballasts go bad you have to deal with that. I'm retiring my old fixtures, the new ones are very light, bright and literally plug and play. See below amazon link and figure what 6 T12 (4') LED equivalents cost. The 6 pack costs about $45 and they draw less.
    I think you forgot the amazon link 'cause I don't see it?

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    What would I get? HYPNOTIZED and convinced I don't need to save things for "someday" when I'll again have use for .... anything. My garage would be a lot more useful if it wasn't jammed with stuff that I can't bear to recycle. I might as well be saving a 55 gallon drum of mustache wax as some of the stuff I have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wentwest View Post
    What would I get? HYPNOTIZED and convinced I don't need to save things for "someday" when I'll again have use for .... anything. My garage would be a lot more useful if it wasn't jammed with stuff that I can't bear to recycle. I might as well be saving a 55 gallon drum of mustache wax as some of the stuff I have.
    But what if you grow that giant mustache? You'll need that wax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ausman1000 View Post
    As pictured I have a basic manually operated solder sucker but actually prefer the rosin impregnated solder wick.

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    I have used wick and it works.

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